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No 2 Air Armament School/No 3 Ground Armament School Personnel and locations


[Jul 1938 | Jan 1939 | Apr 1939 | May 1939]

Personnel Movements: Dec 1935 - Jul 1938

Rank Name Date Notes
Sqn Ldr J Marsden  1 Nov 1937 Arrived on posting and assumed command of Temporary Armament Training Camp
Sqn Ldr A L Hesketh 15 Nov 1937 Posted to HQ No 23 Group for Air Staff duties
No 2 AAS disbanded 1 March 1938 and reformed 1 July 1938
Wg Cdr W R Cox  1 Jul 1937 Assumed command of No 2 Air Armament School

Source - No 2 Air Armament School ORB (AIR 29/588/2)

Organisational Movements: Dec 1935- Jul 1938

Date Notes
16 Dec 1935 A SHQ was formed at RAF North Coates Fitties to administer: -
  • Air Observers' School (moving down from RAF Leuchars)
  • No 2 Armament Training Camp
  • Donna Nook Range
  • Theddlethorpe Range
 1 Jan 1936 Air Observers' School was formed at RAF North Coates Fitties to train: -
  • Air Observers
  • Air Gunners
  • Telegraphist Air Gunners

The station was transferred to the direct administration of HQ Inland Area and under HQ Armament Group for training.

 1 Nov 1937 SHQ, RAF North Coates Fitties and the Air Observers' School were merged into No 2 Air Armament School
 1 Mar 1938 No 2 Air Armament School redesignated No 1 Air Observer School
 1 Jul 1938 No 2 Air Armament School reformed at RAF Eastchurch

Source - No 2 Air Armament School ORB (AIR 29/588/2) and Air Armament School ORB (AIR 29/588/1)

July 1938

Aircraft operated Location Command/Group
  RAF Eastchurch Training Command/No 25 (Armament) Group

 

Rank Name Date Notes
Wg Cdr A W Franklyn 12 Sep 1938 Officer Commanding, Armament duties
Sqn Ldr James C Stevens  2 Jul 1938  
Sqn Ldr

Duncan M Somerville

 5 Dec 1938 later A/Cdre
Flt Lt E B C Davies 10 Aug 1938  
APO Edward L Frith  5 Dec 1938 later AVM

Commissioned Armament Officers

Fg Off A M Davidson 10 Aug 1938  
Fg Off George Bird  31 May 1935  
Fg Off A Chambers 11 Oct 1937  
Fg Off A J Whiting 15 Jul 1938  
Flt Lt H C Pyper   Adjutant, RAFO
Flt Lt (Ret) F T Eades   Assistant Adjutant
Flt Lt R Macfarlan   RAFO
Flt Lt J Selwyn   Assistant Adjutant, RAFO
Capt D A Macfie   Assistant Adjutant, late RAF

Warrant Officers

WO V E Element 16 Aug 1938  
WO J E W Le Gras 29 Jul 1938  

Source - July 1938 Air Force List

Personnel Movements: Jul 1938 - Jan 1939

Rank Name Date Notes
Wg Cdr W R Cox 12 Sep 1938 Relinquished command of No 2 Air Armament School
Wg Cdr A W Franklyn 12 Sep 1938 Arrived on posting and assumed command of No 2 Air Armament School

Source - No 2 Air Armament School ORB (AIR 29/588/2)

Organisational Movements: Jul 1938 - Jan 1939

Date Notes
15 Aug 1938 No 1 AAS moved to RAF Manby, leaving No 2 AAS at RAF Eastchurch, to continue the following annual training: -
  • 5 x Armourer Course
  • 2 x Entries of Boys
  • 3 x Conversion Courses (Armourer to Fitter-Armourer)
  • 1 x Armoured Car Course
  • Several small miscellaneous Armament Courses
 8 Nov 1938 1 x Hart was received

28 Nov 1938 1 x Hart was received
16 Jan 1939 No 1 Naval Air Mechanics (O) Course commenced

Source - No 2 Air Armament School ORB (AIR 29/588/2)

January 1939

Aircraft operated Location Command/Group
  RAF Eastchurch Training Command/No 25 (Armament) Group

 

Rank Name Date Notes
Wg Cdr A W Franklyn 12 Sep 1938 Officer Commanding, Armament duties
Sqn Ldr James C Stevens  2 Jul 1938  
Sqn Ldr

Duncan M Somerville

 5 Dec 1938 later A/Cdre
Flt Lt E B C Davies 10 Aug 1938  
APO Edward L Frith  5 Dec 1938 later AVM

Commissioned Armament Officers

Fg Off A M Davidson 10 Aug 1938  
Fg Off George Bird  31 May 1935  
Fg Off A Chambers 11 Oct 1937  
Fg Off A J Whiting 15 Jul 1938  
Flt Lt (Ret) F T Eades   Assistant Adjutant
Flt Lt R Macfarlan   RAFO
Flt Lt J Selwyn   Assistant Adjutant, RAFO
Capt D A Macfie   Assistant Adjutant, late RAF

Warrant Officers

WO V E Element 16 Aug 1938  
WO J E W Le Gras 29 Jul 1938  

Source - January 1939 Air Force List

April 1939

Aircraft operated Location Command/Group
  RAF Eastchurch Training Command/No 25 (Armament) Group

 

Rank Name Date Notes
Wg Cdr A W Franklyn 12 Sep 1938 Officer Commanding, Armament duties
Sqn Ldr James C Stevens  2 Jul 1938  
Sqn Ldr

Duncan M Somerville

 5 Dec 1938 later A/Cdre
Flt Lt E B C Davies 10 Aug 1938  
Flt Lt H M I Eversfield 16 Jan 1939 Armament duties
Fg Off R E Curry  2 Jan 1939  
Fg Off J D Harris  1 Dec 1938  
Plt Off J O C Kercher  1 Dec 1938  

Commissioned Armament Officers

Fg Off A M Davidson 10 Aug 1938  
Fg Off George Bird  31 May 1935  
Fg Off A Chambers 11 Oct 1937  
Fg Off A J Whiting 15 Jul 1938  
Flt Lt J Selwyn   Assistant Adjutant, RAFO
Capt D A Macfie   Assistant Adjutant, late RAF
Flt Lt F J Deighton   Assistant Adjutant, RAFO, Lt Col (Ret) - Indian Army

Warrant Officers

WO V E Element 16 Aug 1938  
WO J E W Le Gras 29 Jul 1938  

UNDER INSTRUCTION

APO R C J Waters 27 Feb 1939  

Source - April 1939 Confidential Air Force List

May 1939

Aircraft operated Location Command/Group
  RAF Eastchurch Training Command/No 25 (Armament) Group

 

Rank Name Date Notes
Wg Cdr A W Franklyn 12 Sep 1938 Officer Commanding, Armament duties
Sqn Ldr James C Stevens  2 Jul 1938  
Sqn Ldr

Duncan M Somerville

 5 Dec 1938 later A/Cdre
Sqn Ldr D R Shore  1 Apr 1939  
Flt Lt H M I Eversfield 16 Jan 1939 Armament duties
Act Flt Lt J D Harris  1 Dec 1938  
Plt Off J O C Kercher  1 Dec 1938  

Commissioned Armament Officers

Fg Off George Bird  31 May 1935  
Fg Off A Chambers 11 Oct 1937  
Fg Off A J Whiting 15 Jul 1938  
Flt Lt J Selwyn   Assistant Adjutant, RAFO
Capt D A Macfie   Assistant Adjutant, late RAF
Flt Lt F J Deighton   Assistant Adjutant, RAFO, Lt Col (Ret) - Indian Army

Warrant Officers

WO V E Element 16 Aug 1938  
WO J E W Le Gras 29 Jul 1938  
WO C J Collins 20 Jul 1938  
WO C C Willmott 20 Jul 1938  

UNDER INSTRUCTION

APO R C J Waters 27 Feb 1939  

Source - May 1939 Confidential Air Force List

Personnel Movements: May - Dec 1939

Rank Name Date Notes
Sqn Ldr E A Howell  3 Oct 1939 Posted to No 1 AAS, RAF Manby
Sqn Ldr P W Lowe-Holes 16 Oct 1939 Arrived on posting from No 1 AAS for duty as Chief Instructor
Gp Capt C B Dalison 18 Oct 1939 Relinquished command of No 2 AAS on posting to No 2 School of Technical Training to command
Wg Cdr A W Franklyn 18 Oct 1939 Assumed command of No 2 Air Armament School
APO E H Petley 23 Oct 1939 Posted to Iraq for Armoured Car duties
APO R D May 23 Oct 1939 Posted to Iraq for Armoured Car duties
APO D R Pilsworth 23 Oct 1939 Posted to Iraq for Armoured Car duties
APO K T H Storey 23 Oct 1939 Posted to Iraq for Armoured Car duties
Com Ass B Callaghan 24 Oct 1939 Arrived on posting from Cardiff and assumed command of WAAF Detachment
Plt Off H R Edwards 26 Nov 1939 Arrived on posting from RAF Cranwell for Accountant duties
Sqn Ldr C G Clark 27 Nov 1939 Posted to No 2 AACU, RAF Gosport
APO J Winter  1 Dec 1939 Posted to No 1 Armoured Car Company, Iraq
Fg Off W S C Watkins 19 Dec1939 Arrived on posting for Education duties

Source - No 2 Air Armament School ORB (AIR 29/588/2)

Organisational Movements: May - Dec 1939

Date Notes
 8 May 1939 No 2 Naval Air Mechanics (O) Course commenced
 2 Sep 1939 Instructions received for No 2 AAS to move as follows: -

To RAF Pembrey

  • Armourers' Courses, including Naval courses
  • Armoured Car Course
  • HQ, No 2 AAS and certain personnel from SHQ, RAF Eastchurch

To RAF Cosford

  • All Boys u/t Armourers and the Administrative personnel of the Boys Sqn
  • All Airmen u/t Fitter-Armourers
 2 Sep 1939 Advance party departed RAF Eastchurch for RAF Pembrey
 3 Sep 1939 Main parties and equipment departed RAF Eastchurch for RAF Pembrey and RAF Cosford by rail
 5 Sep 1939 Rear party arrived at RAF Pembrey
 7 Oct 1939 No 55 Armourers Course completed training and posted
 9 Oct 1939 No 1 War Course (Naval) commenced
14 Oct 1939 No 56 Armourers Course completed training and posted
16 Oct 1939 No 2 War Course (Naval) commenced
20 Oct 1939 No 2 Air Mechanics (O) Course completed training and posted
21 Oct 1939 No 57 Armourers Course completed training and posted
23 Oct 1939 No 1 Armourers (War) Course commenced
28 Oct 1939 No 58 Armourers Course completed training and posted
30 Oct 1939 No 2 Armourers (War) Course commenced
 4 Nov 1939 No 3 Armourers (War) Course commenced
10 Nov 1939 No 3 Air Mechanics (O) Course commenced
13 Nov 1939 No 4 Armourers (War) Course commenced
20 Nov 1939 No 5 Armourers (War) Course commenced
27 Nov 1939 No 6 Armourers (War) Course commenced
 4 Dec 1939 No 7 Armourers (War) Course commenced
11 Dec 1939 No 8 Armourers (War) Course commenced
18 Dec 1939 No 9 Armourers (War) Course commenced
18 Dec 1939 No 1 Conversion Course (Armourer to Fitter-Armourer) commenced
29 Dec 1939 No 1 War Course (Naval) completed training and posted

Source - No 2 Air Armament School ORB (AIR 29/588/2) and Air Armament School ORB (AIR 29/588/1)

Personnel Movements: Jan - Dec 1940

Rank Name Date Notes
Flt Lt L L Ingram  9 Feb 1940 Medical Officer, posted to RAF West Raynham
Sqn Ldr C M Champion de Crespigny 13 Feb 1940 Posted to No 6 BGS
Fg Off R C Knowles  1 Mar 1940 Posted to RAF Digby
Sqn Ldr C T Weir  8 Mar 1940 Arrived on posting from RAF West Freugh
Sqn Ldr C M T Eversfield 19 Mar 1940 Posted to RAF West Freugh
Fg Off L W Stotter 13 Mar 1940 Posted to No 21 Aircraft Depot, BAFF
Sqn Ldr C M P Hartley 30 Mar 1940 Arrived on posting from RAF Depot, Uxbridge for Equipment duties
Wg Cdr P W Lowe-Holes 21 Jun 1940 Chief Instructor, posted to No 1 School of Technical Training
Wg Cdr A W Franklyn 21 Jun 1940 Remained at RAF Pembrey as Acting Station Commander
Sqn Ldr L E Dowse 24 Jun 1940 Arrived on posting and assumed command of No 3 GAS
Sqn Ldr L E Dowse 31 Aug 1940 Relinquished command of No 3 GAS on posting to CTTB, RAF West Drayton
Fg Off A J Whiting 31 Aug 1940 Promoted to Act Sqn Ldr and assumed command of No 3 GAS
LAC J E Jones 20 Nov 1940 Killed in an accident

Source - No 2 Air Armament School ORB (AIR 29/588/2)

Organisational Movements: Jan - Dec 1940

Date Notes
 2 Jan 1940 No 10 Armourers (War) Course commenced
 2 Jan 1940 No 2 Conversion Course (Armourer to Fitter-Armourer) commenced
 8 Jan 1940 No 3 Conversion Course (Armourer to Fitter-Armourer) commenced
 8 Jan 1940 No 3 Naval Air Mechanics (O) Course commenced
10 Jan 1940 No 2 Naval Air Mechanics (O) Course
15 Jan 1940 No 4 Conversion Course (Armourer to Fitter-Armourer) commenced
15 Jan 1940 No 4 Naval Air Mechanics (O) Course commenced
19 Jan 1940 No 1 Armourers (War) Course completed training and posted
22 Jan 1940 No 5 Conversion Course (Armourer to Fitter-Armourer) commenced
22 Jan 1940 No 4 Naval Air Mechanics (O) Course commenced
26 Jan 1940 No 2 Armourers (War) Course completed training and posted
29 Jan 1940 No 6 Conversion Course (Armourer to Fitter-Armourer) commenced
 1 Feb 1940 No 3 Armourers (War) Course completed training
 5 Feb 1940 No 7 Conversion Course (Armourer to Fitter-Armourer) commenced
 7 Feb 1940 No 4 Armourers (War) Course completed training
12 Feb 1940 No 8 Conversion Course (Armourer to Fitter-Armourer) commenced
14 Feb 1940 No 5 Armourers (War) Course completed training
19 Feb 1940 No 9 Conversion Course (Armourer to Fitter-Armourer) commenced
21 Feb 1940 No 6 Armourers (War) Course completed training
26 Feb 1940 No 10 Conversion Course (Armourer to Fitter-Armourer) commenced
28 Feb 1940 No 7 Armourers (War) Course completed training
 6 Mar 1940 No 8 Armourers (War) Course completed training
13 Mar 1940 No 9 Armourers (War) Course completed training
28 Mar 1940 No 10 Armourers (War) Course completed training
 3 Apr 1940 No 3 Air Mechanics (O) Course completed training
 8 Apr 1940 No 14 Direct Entrant Fitter-Armourer Course commenced
 8 Apr 1940 No 6 Naval Air Mechanics (O) Course commenced
 8 Apr 1940 No 1 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
11 Apr 1940 No 4 Naval Air Mechanics (O) Course completed training
15 Apr 1940 No 2 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
15 Apr 1940 No 7 Naval Air Mechanics (O) Course commenced
18 Apr 1940 No 5 Air Mechanics (O) Course completed training
22 Apr 1940 No 3 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
22 Apr 1940 No 8 Naval Air Mechanics (O) Course commenced
29 Apr 1940 No 4 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
 1 May 1940 No 1 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course completed passing out examination
 3 May 1940 No 5 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
 8 May 1940 No 2 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course completed passing out examination
10 May 1940 No 6 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
15 May 1940 No 3 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course completed passing out examination
17 May 1940 No 7 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
22 May 1940 No 4 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course completed passing out examination
24 May 1940 No 8 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
29 May 1940 No 5 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course completed passing out examination
 3 Jun 1940 No 9 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
 5 Jun 1940 No 6 Direct Entrant Fitter-Armourer Course completed passing out examination
10 Jun 1940 No 10 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
12 Jun 1940 No 7 Direct Entrant Fitter-Armourer Course completed passing out examination
17 Jun 1940 No 11 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
18 Jun 1940 No 8 Direct Entrant Fitter-Armourer Course completed passing out examination
20 Jun 1940 No 2 AAS moved from RAF Pembrey to RAF Porthcawl
24 Jun 1940 No 12 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
26 Jun 1940 No 9 Direct Entrant Fitter-Armourer Course completed passing out examination
 4 Jul 1940 No 10 Direct Entrant Fitter-Armourer Course completed passing out examination
 5 Jul 1940 No 14 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
 7 Jul 1940 The school was transferred from No 25 (Armament) Group, FTC to No 24 (Training) Group, TTC
 7 Jul 1940 No 2 Air Armament School was redesignated No 3 Ground Armament School
11 Jul 1940 No 11 Direct Entrant Fitter-Armourer Course completed passing out examination
12 Jul 1940 No 15 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
16 Jul 1940 School informed of new TTC policy, dividing schools into either 'B' (Bombing) or 'G' (Gunnery) training; No 3 GAS to be a 'G' school
16 Jul 1940 Fitter to Fitter Armourer Conversion (Gunnery) Courses to be reduced from 31 to 20 weeks
xx Jul 1940 Service and Civilian Bombing Instructors and equipment transferred to RAF Hereford
18 Jul 1940 No 12 Direct Entrant Fitter-Armourer Course completed passing out examination
19 Jul 1940 No 16 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
25 Jul 1940 No 13 Direct Entrant Fitter-Armourer Course completed passing out examination
29 Jul 1940 No 17 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
 5 Aug 1940 No 18 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
 8 Aug 1940 No 14 Direct Entrant Fitter-Armourer Course completed passing out examination (Last DE course)
12 Aug 1940 No 19 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
19 Aug 1940 No 20 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
26 Aug 1940 No 21 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
 2 Sep 1940 No 22 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
 9 Sep 1940 No 23 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
23 Sep 1940 No 24 Armourer/Fitter-Armourer Conversion Course commenced
26 Jun 1940 No 1 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
24 Sep 1940 No 1 NCO Refresher Course commenced
30 Sep 1940 No 25 Conversion Course commenced
 3 Oct 1940 No 2 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
 7 Oct 1940 No 26 Conversion Course commenced
 7 Oct 1940 No 17 Air Mechanics Course commenced
10 Oct 1940 No 3 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
10 Oct 1940 No 4 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
14 Oct 1940 No 27 Conversion Course commenced
17 Oct 1940 No 5 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
17 Oct 1940 No 6 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
21 Oct 1940 No 28 Conversion Course commenced
24 Oct 1940 No 7 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
24 Oct 1940 No 8 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
28 Oct 1940 No 29 Conversion Course commenced
31 Oct 1940 No 9 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
 4 Nov 1940 No 30 Conversion Course commenced
 7 Nov 1940 No 10 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
11 Nov 1940 No 31 Conversion Course commenced
14 Nov 1940 No 11 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
18 Nov 1940 No 32 Conversion Course commenced
21 Nov 1940 No 12 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
25 Nov 1940 No 33 Conversion Course commenced
28 Nov 1940 No 13 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
 5 Dec 1940 No 14 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
 9 Dec 1940 No 34 Conversion Course commenced
12 Dec 1940 No 15 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
12 Dec 1940 No 16 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
16 Dec 1940 No 35 Conversion Course commenced
19 Dec 1940 No 17 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
19 Dec 1940 No 18 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
23 Dec 1940 No 36 Conversion Course commenced
26 Dec 1940 No 19 Conversion Course completed passing out examination
30 Dec 1940 No 37 Conversion Course commenced

Source - No 2 Air Armament School ORB (AIR 29/588/2)

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